Has there been an effort to reconcile Project Haystack with COBIE?
Brian FrankTue 21 Feb 2012
I'm not super familiar with COBIE, but my understanding is that its a BIM model mostly focused on physical properties of the building right? If so, then my experience is that the CAD/BIM side and the operations/sensor side of things are just now being integrated (sort of a brave new world). Are you interested in such a project? We would just need someone (or someones) who are experts in COBIE to participate in the effort.
Aniruddha DeodharTue 21 Feb 2012
It would be useful to expand this topic to other standards too - COBIE, OPiE, gbXML, IFC, ASHRAE's SPC205 etc
Raymond KaiserTue 13 Mar 2012
The acronym COBie is for Construction Operations Building Information Exchange. The objective of the information exchange standard includes the design and construction phases but also includes information exchange through the entire building's lifecycle.
COBIE does use the IFC (Industry Foundation Classes)to develop a Common Building Model. So a better question may be - Do you hope to reconcile Project Haystack with the IFC schema - see http://buildingsmart-tech.org/.
I am interested in contributing to such an effort. I am not an expert.
Bill EastFri 24 Jan 2014
Just to clarify Ray's post. COBie is an example of an ISO 16739 (IFC) Model View Definition. This data specification may be presented in ISO 10303 STEP Physical File Format (SPFF) or one of three XML schema: ifcXML (not widely used), SpreadsheetML (widely used), and COBieLite (expected wide use). COBieLite was created using the National Information Exchange Model (NIEM) schema rules.
There are many examples of buildings with COBie data in these formats. "Common BIM Files" even include redacted drawings and operations and maintenance manuals used for software testing and development. The buildingSMART alliance Means and Methods page lists the results of the most recent testing of commercial software in several different parts of the facility acquisition life-cycle.
Raymond Kaiser Tue 21 Feb 2012
Has there been an effort to reconcile Project Haystack with COBIE?
Brian Frank Tue 21 Feb 2012
I'm not super familiar with COBIE, but my understanding is that its a BIM model mostly focused on physical properties of the building right? If so, then my experience is that the CAD/BIM side and the operations/sensor side of things are just now being integrated (sort of a brave new world). Are you interested in such a project? We would just need someone (or someones) who are experts in COBIE to participate in the effort.
Aniruddha Deodhar Tue 21 Feb 2012
It would be useful to expand this topic to other standards too - COBIE, OPiE, gbXML, IFC, ASHRAE's SPC205 etc
Raymond Kaiser Tue 13 Mar 2012
The acronym COBie is for Construction Operations Building Information Exchange. The objective of the information exchange standard includes the design and construction phases but also includes information exchange through the entire building's lifecycle.
COBIE does use the IFC (Industry Foundation Classes)to develop a Common Building Model. So a better question may be - Do you hope to reconcile Project Haystack with the IFC schema - see http://buildingsmart-tech.org/.
I am interested in contributing to such an effort. I am not an expert.
Bill East Fri 24 Jan 2014
Just to clarify Ray's post. COBie is an example of an ISO 16739 (IFC) Model View Definition. This data specification may be presented in ISO 10303 STEP Physical File Format (SPFF) or one of three XML schema: ifcXML (not widely used), SpreadsheetML (widely used), and COBieLite (expected wide use). COBieLite was created using the National Information Exchange Model (NIEM) schema rules.
There are many examples of buildings with COBie data in these formats. "Common BIM Files" even include redacted drawings and operations and maintenance manuals used for software testing and development. The buildingSMART alliance Means and Methods page lists the results of the most recent testing of commercial software in several different parts of the facility acquisition life-cycle.